Dordabis
The two nonsprekendes of Phylner connect the -dabis with the 'Brakbos', the whites with -dabes, -des, place of gathering, and then see the word for 'prayer', Nama ǀ Gore- [g- and D- is anglautende indeed interchangeably cf. 5 E 1], or Nama Doro- = 'Tonel'. Dr. Vedder apparently analyzes it as follows: Mrs. Franzius heard her statement from the Namas himself and was completely convinced of their accuracy, 'prayer'.
About this item
Identifier
582_SKCPN
Title
Dordabis
Alternative Title
Dordabis
Georeference Sources
S 2217
Is Part Of
longitude
17.5
latitude
-22.5
Measurement Accuracy
50 km radius
Source
eng
PNK 1947 'Dordabis'. Farm No. 98, shop etc. and motorbus stop 101 km from Windhoek on Route to Nina. 'Nama: ǀ Goredabes = Ort, Wo Wir Beten. H. Vedder '. [PNC decides to keep the established spelling and does not change Dordabis to Goredabes, cf. APN 1951 97], Franzius Ch. 1974 Boerin Conversation 'Doredabis, prayer is Dore, means the prayer place'. [Not quite sure if she expresses the first member on the band as ╪dore- or as ǀ Dore- .fire or tuna box ... 'Lambert Simon 1974 Farm Worker Conversation' ǀ Dordabis is Brakbos '. Witbooi M 1974 Farm worker Conversation 'Dordabis, it's the Brakbos that'.
afr
PNK 1947 'Dordabis'. Plaas nr 98, daarop winkel ens. en motorbushalte 101 km van Windhoek af op roete na Nina. 'Nama: ǀGoredabes = Ort, wo wir beten. H. Vedder'. [PNK besluit om die gevestigde spelling te behou en Dordabis nie te verander tot Goredabes nie, vgl. APN 1951 97], Franzius Ch. 1974 Boerin Gesprek 'Doredabis, die gebed is dore, beteken die Gebedeplek'. [Nie heeltemal seker of sy die eerste lid op die band uitspreek as ╪Dore- of as ǀDore- nie.] Bassingthwaighte V 1974 Farmer Conversation 'Doro is to ‘tontel’, to make a fire...So it’s either...fire or tonteldoos...' lambert Simon 1974 Plaasarbeider Gesprek 'ǀDordabis is brakbos'. Witbooi M 1974 Plaasarbeider Gesprek 'Dordabis, dis die brakbos daardie'.
Description
eng
The two nonsprekendes of Phylner connect the -dabis with the 'Brakbos', the whites with -dabes, -des, place of gathering, and then see the word for 'prayer', Nama ǀ Gore- [g- and D- is anglautende indeed interchangeably cf. 5 E 1], or Nama Doro- = 'Tonel'. Dr. Vedder apparently analyzes it as follows: Mrs. Franzius heard her statement from the Namas himself and was completely convinced of their accuracy, 'prayer'.
afr
Die twee Namasprekendes van Flefner verbind die -dabis met die 'brakbos', die Blankes met -dabes, -dawes, plek van samekoms, en sien dan in die eerste lid die woord vir 'gebed', Nama ǀgore- [g- en d- is anlautend inderdaad verwisselbaar vgl. 5 E 1], of Nama doro- = 'tontel'. Dr Vedder ontleed dit blykbaar soos volg: ǀgore = bid, (si)da = ons, en -bis plekbenoemende agter- voegsel. Mev. Franzius het haar verklaring van die Namas self gehoor en is heeltemal oortuig van die juistheid daarvan, 'Bidplek'.
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